memeorandum: Very Quick Thoughts (Josh Marshall/Talking Points Memo)

10:00 AM ET, October 12, 2012

Top Items:

Joe Biden / CNN:

CNN Poll: Debate watchers split on who won VP debate — Danville, Kentucky (CNN) - Call it a draw. — Forty-eight percent of voters who watched the vice presidential debate think that Rep. Paul Ryan won the showdown, according to a CNN/ORC International nationwide poll conducted right after Thursday night's faceoff.

CBS News:

Poll: Biden takes debate over Ryan, uncommitted voters say — Fifty percent of uncommitted voters who tuned into Thursday night's vice presidential debate in Danville, Ky., said they see Vice President Joe Biden as the winner over Mitt Romney's GOP running mate Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., according to an instant poll taken by CBS News.

Discussion: Power Line, FiveThirtyEight, New York Magazine, Talking Points Memo, National Review, New York Times, Arkansas Blog, Arkansas Times, The Maddow Blog, Capital New York, Prairie Weather, Wonkblog, PolicyMic and Business Insider

Wall Street Journal:

The Bully vs. the Wonk — The Veep's strategy: Show contempt for your opponent. — So now we know what Team Obama's comeback plan was following last week's defeat in the Presidential debate. Unleash Joe Biden to interrupt, filibuster, snarl, smirk and otherwise show contempt for Paul Ryan.

Discussion: The Week and The Daily Beast

Josh Marshall / Talking Points Memo:

Very Quick Thoughts — I'll keep it brief. — I'd call the first exchange on foreign policy basically a draw. Biden was on uncomfortable terrain on the Libya story. On each successive encounter, Biden was on the offensive and owned the conversation. I don't think it was close.

Discussion: Taegan Goddard's …, Washington Monthly, Los Angeles Times, Guardian, Swampland, National Review and The Week

NPR:

Transcript And Audio: Vice Presidential Debate … Vice President Joe Biden and Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., participate in the vice presidential debate, moderated by Martha Raddatz of ABC News, Thursday in Danville, Ky. — Transcript of the Oct. 11 debate between Vice President Biden …

Discussion: Firedoglake, The New Republic, The Huffington Post, ABCNEWS, FP Passport, NO QUARTER USA NET, Booman Tribune and Boston Globe

Patrick Gavin / Politico:

Twitter frowns on Joe Biden's laugh — Vice President Joe Biden and Rep. Paul Ryan were the two candidates on stage at Thursday's vice presidential debate, but a third character emerged: Joe Biden's laugh, which didn't escape the notice of tweeting politicos.

Discussion: Villainous Company, Michelle Malkin, Townhall.com, The Lonely Conservative, American Spectator, National Review, Betsy's Page, Swampland, The Strata-Sphere and Hot Air

Allahpundit / Hot Air:

Angry old man yells at Paul Ryan for 90 minutes; Update: CNN insta-poll of undecideds shows tie; Update: Ryan wins CNN insta-poll overall, 48/44 — I expected “table-pounding atmospherics” from Biden but I didn't expect him to act like a total jackhole for fully 90 minutes.

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Katie Glueck / Politico:

Sarah Palin: Martha Raddatz let Joe Biden run wild — Sarah Palin took vice presidential debate moderator Martha Raddatz to task for allowing Vice President Joe Biden to “run roughshod” over Paul Ryan. — “Really tough format, Sean, for someone like a Paul Ryan or anybody else up against Joe Biden …

Discussion: The Hinterland Gazette, Riehl World News, The Daily Caller, Reuters, National Review and PolicyMic

Andrew Sullivan / The Daily Dish:

Live-Blogging The Biden-Ryan Debate — 10.33 pm. I have to say that Biden did to Ryan what Cheney did to Edwards in style and demeanor and authoritah. Ryan was hampered by an insurmountable problem on the impossible mathematics of the Romney budget. I think his inability to answer that question …

Discussion: The Moderate Voice, Slate, Talking Points Memo, Mother Jones and New York Magazine

Maggie Haberman / Politico:

Sources: Ryan to be called ‘mister,’ not ‘congressman,’ at debate (Updated) — When Paul Ryan and Joe Biden take the debate stage tonight in Danville, Ky., the form of address the debate moderator is supposed to use with the VP's opponent is “mister” instead of “congressman,” two sources confirmed to POLITICO.

Discussion: ABCNEWS, CNN, Mediaite, The Daily Caller, Washington Post, Daily Kos, The Maddow Blog, New York Magazine, Alan Colmes' Liberaland and Taylor Marsh

Josh Rogin / Foreign Policy:

Biden contradicts State Department on Benghazi security — Vice President Joe Biden claimed that the administration wasn't aware of requests for more security in Libya before the Sept. 11 attacks on the U.S. mission in Benghazi during Thursday night's debate, contradicting two State Department officials …

Discussion: Hugh Hewitt's TownHall Blog, americanthinker.com, The Hill, Taylor Marsh, Power Line, ABCNEWS, Michelle Malkin, iOwnTheWorld.com and News Desk

Dylan Byers / Politico:

Debate verdict: Martha Raddatz took control — Tonight's winner: Martha Raddatz. — Jim Lehrer she is not. Raddatz, the moderator of tonight's vice presidential debate, served as an authoritative voice throughout the 90-minute contest between Vice President Joe Biden and Rep. Paul Ryan …

Discussion: Reuters, Taking Note, ABCNEWS, Sweetness & Light, The Week, BuzzFeed, Washington Examiner, The Spectacle Blog, the-reaction.blogspot.ca and The Daily Caller

Wall Street Journal:
Noonan: Confusing Strength With Aggression

Discussion: Power Line, The Daily Caller, Taegan Goddard's …, Instapundit and Weekly Standard

Fred Barnes / Weekly Standard:
Biden Bombed — You don't win a nationally televised debate by being rude and obnoxious.

Discussion: Washington Wire, Los Angeles Times, Washington Post and Wall Street Journal

New York Times:
Biden and Ryan Quarrel Aggressively in Debate, Offering Contrasts

Discussion: Gothamist, The Caucus, Capital Tonight and Outside the Beltway

Charles P. Pierce / Esquire:
The Zombie-Eyed Granny-Starver Takes on the One Man Who Relishes This Mess: Your 2012 VP Debate Preview

Discussion: Balloon Juice, The Impolitic and CNN

Paul Mirengoff / Power Line: Thoughts on the vice-presidential debate

Bruce Kesler / Maggie's Farm:
Rude Biden Turns Off Many Independents

Discussion: CNN and Israel Matzav

Reuters:
Joe Biden, Paul Ryan clear the bar — barely

Discussion: Outside the Beltway, BuzzFeed and Politico

Michael Barone / Washington Examiner:
Thoughts on the vice presidential debate

Discussion: National Review

Ann Althouse / Althouse: Live-blogging the big VP debate.

Paul Ryan / CNN:
Ryan aide says magazine used ‘poor judgment’ printing photos

Discussion: Politico, New York Magazine, Election 2012 and LightBox

Tom Cohen / CNN:
Biden, Ryan slug it out in debate

Discussion: the-reaction.blogspot.ca, The Reaction, The Moderate Voice, PolicyMic, ABCNEWS and The Daily Beast

Washington Post:
Biden, Ryan trade sharp words on foreign policy, economy during vice-presidential debate

Discussion: The Fix, Politico, Fox News and Hugh Hewitt's TownHall Blog

Iain Martin / blogs.telegraph.co.uk:

EU winning Nobel Peace Prize is beyond parody, like knighting Fred Goodwin in the middle of a mad boom — Has the committee which runs the Nobel Peace Prize been infiltrated by satirists or opponents keen on discrediting the organisation? Norwegian radio reports this morning, carried by Reuters …

Discussion: americanthinker.com and Vox Popoli

Nobelprize.org:
The Nobel Peace Prize for 2012

Discussion: BBC, Daniel W. Drezner, Business Insider and FT Alphaville

New York Times:
Nobel Committee Awards Peace Prize to European Union

Discussion: Outside the Beltway

Noah Rothman / Mediaite:

Did Stephanie Cutter Just Win The Foreign Policy Debate For Romney? — In case you haven't seen the video, watch it. Drink it in. Obama campaign Deputy Communications Director Stephanie Cutter, in a craven and flailing attempt to salvage the White House's ebbing credibility surrounding …

Discussion: “The Lid” and Politico

Katie Pavlich / Townhall.com:
Exclusive Video: Cutter Stands by Libya Comments, Refuses to Resign

Discussion: The Daily Caller and The PJ Tatler

Washington Free Beacon:
Cutter: Benghazi Is Only an Issue ‘Because of Romney and Ryan’

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John Boone / E! Online:

NEWS/Lindsay Lohan: I'm Voting for Mitt Romney — Lindsay Lohan should have enough issues to focus on in her life (like, say, the blow up fight she had with her mom and subsequent fight she had with her dad) but she has another on her mind: Unemployment. — The Liz & Dick star stepped …

Discussion: Reuters, New York Magazine and Hotline On Call

Adam C. Smith / Tampa Bay Times:

Times/Bay News 9/Herald exclusive Florida poll: Romney 51, Obama 44 — Barack Obama's lackluster debate performance last week has dramatically altered the presidential race in Florida, with Mitt Romney opening up a decisive 7 percentage point lead, according to a new Tampa Bay Times/Bay News 9/Miami Herald poll.

Discussion: Taegan Goddard's …, The Daily Caller, Israel Matzav, Scared Monkeys, Weasel Zippers, Jammie Wearing Fools, Politico, Gretawire and The PJ Tatler

Allahpundit / Hot Air: Oh my: New Florida poll shows Romney up by seven overall — and up two among Latinos

Andrew Kirell / Mediaite:

Matthews Confronts Lady Who Tells Him To Do His Homework, ‘Obama Is A Communist, Buddy’ — As MSNBC host Chris Matthews talked to people in the crowd outside the Danville, Kentucky location for tonight's vice presidential debate, he was interrupted by an older woman who insisted President Barack Obama is a communist and un-American.

Discussion: Gawker